Talk:Prototype Virus

This page needs to be updated. In RE5 it turns out its not the T-virus but Progenitor.

eh? But the official english-language RE5 site says Wesker was infected with t-virus...this is the one Birkin gave him in 1998...NOT the virus that was injected into him as a baby-- Forerunner 14:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Forerunner. I think the idea was that up until now mostly everyone (including Wesker for a while) believed that the virus in his body was a modified form of the T-virus. However, in Resident Evil 5, it is revealed in the in-game archive 'Albert Wesker' and in Wesker's conversation with Spencer, that the virus in Wesker's body is really the Progenitor virus.

These reasons include:

1.) Spencer says in his conversation with Wesker that the Wesker children were to be "given birth by the Progenitor virus."

2.) The archive called 'Albert Wesker' says that Wesker received the same virus the other children got from Birkin, someone he first met as an adult (as far as we know), and that he administered it to himself, something that would be hard for him to do if he were a baby.

3.) The virus behaved very similiarly to the Progenitor virus (i.e. all the Wesker children died of it but for Wesker, just like all the aspirants to the Ndipaya throne died of the Progenitor virus but for the King, and both Wesker and the King received "great strength" and vitality due to being extremely rare survivors of their respective viruses.)

4.) The serum that Wesker must continually inject himself with in order to stabilize his viral infection is called 'PG67A/W,' the 'A/W' most likely stands for 'Albert Wesker,' but the 'PG' may stand for 'Progenitor.'

5.) It seems too odd a coincidence that Birkin somehow made a virus that reproduced the Progenitor virus's effects in an infectee when Umbrella seemed to have no breakthroughs in this regard up until then (i.e. a zombie, Tyrant, or Licker is a long way from a true superhuman).

6.) When Wesker hypothesizes in his diary entry in The Umbrella Chroncles that the T-virus affects people differently depending upon their personalities, he wonders what in his personality would have caused him to mutate differently from people like Marcus and Sergei, insinuating that he does not understand why he has remained so relatively human in contrast to them.

7.) Others who have variants of the T-virus in them (i.e. Marcus, Nemesis, etc.) were prone to violent mutation upon being mortally wounded, something that does not seem to happen to Wesker when he is near death in Resident Evil 5. (The worst he gets is increased anger and a reduction of control over his eyes.)

8.) William Birkin would have good reason to lie about the nature of the virus to Wesker. First, it was imperative to Ozwell E. Spencer, from whom Birkin would have received his orders, that Albert remain unaware of Project Wesker, lest Wesker be freed from Spencer's mental control. And second, Wesker would almost certainly not have allowed himself to be injected with the virus if he knew that there was almost no chance that he would survive it (because again survivors of the Progenitor virus are rare in the extreme and none of the other children had survived infection with it). Thus, Birkin probably told Albert that is was a modified strain of the T-virus in order to convince him that it was reasonably safe to use.

So in conclusion: yeah I think it's a retcon, although it does make some sense in retrospect.

P.S. No official source that I know of says directly that Wesker's virus is in fact Progenitor; it is only insinuated that this is the case, leaving the door open to interpretation. Thus it is important that this article be edited but kept, especially because this is one of my favorite articles on this wikia and because it is extremely well-written. --User:Webspidrman 07:48, 20 June 2009

The RE5 site ITSELF says directly that Wesker injected himself with a t-virus form. He had Progenitor in him already. er...#5 makes little sense...Zombies, Lickers and Tyrants are t-virus creations. Superhuman or above human-average strength is what the virus does. What Spencer was referring to was the virus that was injected into Albert as a CHILD. He would not have been aware of Albert and William's betrayal and Birkin giving him a modified t-virus. Furthermore, Progenitor would have no effect on Wesker if he already had it in his body, all what the Progenitor did to him was an increased intelligence and become one of the few with the ability to become Tyrants - not that he became one anyway. --Forerunner 11:51, 20 June 2009

I hear you and I know what you are saying. But could you kindly tell me where to find the info that Wesker received the Progenitor virus as a child on the RE5 website? --User:Webspidrman 08:02, 20 June 2009

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I don't understand why Wesker would not have had superhuman abilities before dying if he was injected with the Progenitor virus as a child. It seems to me that the Progenitor virus really did give the ancient Ndipaya king "great strength," rather than just increasing his vitality and intelligence. Is it possible that Wesker's great intelligence isn't just due to the fact that he was selected by Spencer because he was exceptionally bright to begin with? Could you please explain your idea further? Thanks. --User:Webspidrman 08:16, 20 June 2009

Sorry, #5 above should read: It seems too odd a coincidence that Birkin somehow made a variant of the T-virus that reproduced the Progenitor virus's effects in an infectee when Umbrella seemed to have no breakthroughs in this regard up until then (i.e. a zombie, Tyrant, or Licker is a long way from a true superhuman). What I was intending to say was that the T-virus was created to be a less lethal version of the Progenitor virus but it was unable to produce superhumans; so it is unlikely that Birkin had made much more progress considering how far off Umbrella was from this goal. --User:Webspidrman 08:33, 20 June 2009

It doesn't matter what the official RE5 site says. In RE5, it is stated as the proginiter virus. In the official site, it said that Chris was taller then Wesker, yet in five, Wesker is five centimeters taller then Chris. So do you really think that the official site should be used in an argument? Trust me, it is the progeniter virus. Wesker did not extensivly mutate, a property of the progeniter virus, not the T-Virus. The Wesker children was not a cloning or artificial birth thingy, it was kidnapping chi8ldren from parents with above-agerage intellect and injected with the progeniter virus. Usually by the means of either a friend telling them, a medical checkup, or by force. So that is why I believe it to be the progeniter virus.AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield 20:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)