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| − | I'd like to know exactly why all of my original edits where reversed? Let's recap: I moved estate to a capital E because it is its proper title, I added in information found in Wesker's second report about its history, I expanded upon the needed details of it from RE1, and I even put on info about the second estate in RE5. I put the second estate on a seperate page, but I only put them as one page because I thought it seemed suitable to let everyone know that it is the same name given to not-so-different yet seperate locations. Honestly, to make the page look more informative (I was saving it from being a ''stump''), you could have just deleted the second estate info (since you ''just had to'' keep the two estates seperate pages) but kept on the other info about the first estate that I worked so hard on. But, you know, just throwin it out there. --[[User:Mateo22|Mateo22]] 20:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | #They are unrelated estates, apart from Spencer owning them at one point; |
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| − | #Neither estates appear in Code: Veronica; |
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| − | #An article on the Arklay Research Facility already exists, thus a lot of information on it would be impractical. |
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| − | #Estate is not a proper noun, thus a capital "E" for "estate" other than at the start of a sentence is grammatically incorrect.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 15:26, 19 August 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | As seen in the subtitles in RE5 whenever the castle is mentioned, estate is a proper noun in this case becasue it is part of the title Spencer Estate, like Salazar Castle. But I take your point that they should both have their own pages since they are two different estates. --[[User:Mateo22|Mateo22]] 19:41, 19 August 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :Also, I didn't say that they appeared in Code Veronica. Rather, if you read my version of the article, it merely mentioned that there was a replica of the first estate, nothing more than that. |
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| − | :I apologise for that, I assumed that because "CV" was in the Era, you thought that the building was a complete replica (and thus a reference to) the original Spencer estate. It was in fact just the Main Hall that was a replica, even then only partially (due to room changes in the REmake). The subtitles shouldn't be taken wholly, as grammatical errors are made throughout, and the spelling of "t-virus" is constantly misspelled as "T-Virus" or "t-Virus". -- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 20:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | No problem. I guess it doesn't matter at this point, but then how can Salazar Castle be explained? I thought it was the same case with Spencer Estate? Just curious. --[[User:Mateo22|Mateo22]] 14:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :Again, what is the difference between Spencer Estate and Salazar Castle?? [[User:Mateo22|Mateo22]] 21:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | The proper name for the mansion is the Arklay Mansion. Also, Spencer Estate is still a proper name of a place and should be capitalized in every instance by default, picking and choosing only for this article is stupid, especially since its incorrect to begin with. And also, this article should be merged with the Arklay Research Facility as that is the full, proper, official name for the entire complex. [[User:News Bot]] |
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| − | Just wanted to point out that the article needs expanding, but you have it locked, so that people that want to expand it, but don't have an account (like me) cant help![[Special:Contributions/99.250.9.113|99.250.9.113]] 02:38, December 6, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | == Not called the Spencer Estate == |
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| − | Since my last note seems to have been ignored, allow me to reiterate. The mansion is not called the Spencer Estate. Ever. It is either the Arklay Research Faciility, the Arklay Laboratory, or the Arklay Mansion. Spencer Estate is Spencer's own private living quarters in Europe. Not the mansion in the Arklay Mountains. ~ News Bot |
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| − | :Those names are not acceptable. This page refers to the specific part of the Research facility that disguises it. The "Arklay Laboratory" would refer to the Laboratory part, while there were more than one "Arklay mansions". "Spencer estate" ws chosen because it was an estate owned by Spencer.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 15:28, December 6, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ::The Arklay Research Facility is the official name Capcom use to refer to the entire complex, including the mansion, guardhouse and so on. It is not exclusive to the underground laboratory. And no, there is only one Arklay Mansion. Unless you mean the movie rendition, in which case I don't see why you're favouring the movies over the games. Having two Spencer Estate's is merely over-complicating and confusing things. ~ News Bot |
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| − | :::Actually, no. I was referring to the Mansion part of the Management Training Facility seen in in Resident Evil 0. I don't think of the movie one as the Spencer estate, it should be the "Parks estate".-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 16:33, December 6, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::The mansion part of the Management Training Facility is just the Management Training Facility. It is never referred to as a mansion, let alone "Arklay Mansion". Exactly how is it possible to confuse it with the actual one? ~ News Bot |
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| − | ::::: They are both mansions in the Arklays, thus the article is a "Disambiguation" page, as "Arklay mansion" could be used as a description, rather than name. -- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 16:58, December 6, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::Capcom uses Arklay Mansion as a name. What makes it any different for you? Especially when the Management Training Facility just *barely* passes for a mansion? You are more like writing your own names for these locations despite the easiest, and correct approach is to just give them their official names. You are just introducing unnecessary confusion. ~ News Bot |
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| − | :::::::Capcom has used alternate names for the same thing, before. In fact, they may have used "Arklay Laboratory" more than "Research Facility". I am not "introducing unnecessary confusion". The article is this name because it was the name given to the Mansion on the Arklay Research Facility article, which was taken from Wikipedia. Yet again, you seem to think that only I, and I alone, am responsible for every edit to every page.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 18:16, December 6, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::Laboratory and Research Facility are the same thing, and are interchangeable. They originate from the same Japanese term. You are still introducing unnecessary confusion. And just because it came from Wikipedia, you're going to keep it? I believe Wikipedia also was the source for the King/Queen Plagas nonsense. I don't think you're responsible at all, but you ARE the one who responded. =P ~ News Bot |
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| − | I have to agree with forerunner, as it is refered to as the Spencer estate in the RE univers.[[User:AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield|AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield]] 02:44, December 24, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :No it isn't. It is called the Arklay Laboratory/Arklay Research Facility in the RE universe. The only other thing it is ever referred to as is simply "Mansion". It is NEVER referred to as the Spencer estate in a single piece of material related to the games. Know why? Because thats not what its called and it isn't even what it is. The only place where you'll find it as "Spencer estate" is this website. Hence, made up bull****~ News Bot |
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| − | ::Not according to a Google search "Spencer estate resident evil". The name we use refers to the entire complex, which I have told you before. The Residence is not part of the Mansion, but the estate. An estate owned by Spencer isn't allowed to be called the Spencer estate, eh? What about the other estate owned by Spencer? Sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 13:52, December 24, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Google turns up unofficial fansites and, unsurprisingly, this site as the first result. Not a single actual source. What is your point? Btw, it isn't even an estate. Even the Mansion is a research institute. Hence why it houses, you know, researchers. At least the ACTUAL Spencer Estate is actually bloody CALLED THAT. And he actually lives there, believe it or not! On the other hand, he did not live in the Arklay Research Facility, go figure. The Research Facility is not an estate, it would do this site a lot of good if you stopped making shit up. Arklay Research Facility is the term Capcom use for the entire complex, exactly what makes you so inclined to be different? Giving it an unofficial name which is completely incorrect and inaccurate whilst there is an ACTUAL place called the same thing does not do anything aside from cause completely uneccessary confusion. Though it is nice to see this site's penchant for nonsense being kept up. ~ News Bot |
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| − | I remember a file in Resident Evil REmake that stated it was called the Spencer estate. And I have beaten that game over and over again. [[User:AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield|AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield]] 03:35, January 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :So do I, and in the original Japanese file, it is referred to as the "Spencer mansion". ~ News Bot |
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| − | I sorry to revive an old discussion, but I'm going to agree with the previous editor than the mansion has never been called the "Spencer Estate" in any of the games. I always seen it referred as the Arklay Research Facility, the Arklay Labs or simply "the Mansion", but never as the "Spencer Estate". Not even in the ''Biohazard Archives'' or any of the Japanese reference guides. The name "Spencer Estate" comes from the S.D. Perry novels, which are definitely non-canon. BTW, Google search results shouldn't be trusted. Misconceptions (especially fanon) are spread around on the internet and then treated as fact by fansites, with nobody asking for a citation. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 15:17, June 25, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | I think people just call it that because he owned the place |
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| − | :With all due respect, I seriously don't care why fans use the name "Spencer Estate". My point is that it's an unofficial name coming from a non-canon source. At the very least, the page needs to have a different name and a clarification stating that the name "Spencer Estate" comes from the novels and not the game. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 16:41, June 29, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ::There is no official name - or at least none that can easily mean Marcus' estate façade. It is referred to here as the Spencer estate because that's what it is - Spencer's estate. '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 17:35, June 29, 2010 (UTC) |
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Added source of design inspiration for the architecture of the house. Chateau de Blois, d'Orleans wing by Mansart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Blois
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Gaston_d%27Orl%C3%A9ans_wing